If you have a damaged, bent marine / ship / vessel propeller shaft or rudder stock MarineShaft can straighten the shaft using a Cold Straightening technique that is fully class-approved. Yea I know better, lol. The shaft looked OK, but there was noticeable propeller tip runout. We offer you complete repair solutions including final machining and re-fitting on-site. FORUMS. I am thinking of removing it, take it to a machine shop to have it strightend, and reassemble. (The pictures show the shaft collar rubbed into the strut housing at the top and a gap between the collar and strut housing at the bottom.) Bent Prop Shaft Andrew Rusczek #70832 . A bent prop won't perform well, and will also spin out of balance, again putting undo stress on the shaft seals and bearings. Now you'll want to remove the propeller. In a bent shaft, the axis of the shaft is different than its axis of rotation. The bent prop, or propeller that is missing a blade, now this is a problem. The transmission didn't suffer any damage. At least it was on my Hacker A40-10L motor. A shaft is bent if that is not the case. YouTube, Feeling vibrations in your steering wheel while underway can also be an indicator of a bent prop shaft or bent propeller blades. Thanks for the TIR spec Seahorse! What I knew as "run-out" in a previous life is Yes way different than "out of round". (guaranteed within +/-.005). If I am understanding you correctly the strut is bent, AND it's fibreglass bond to the hull is broken. I got to my Sabre 38-II today to find what looks like a bent prop shaft aft of the cutlass bearing. Sometimes the prop hubs aren't exactly perfect and when you spin the shaft and look at the back of the hub, it seems out of round. Prop 3 blade Chris craft 1015LH T36 15" x 1 1/4 shaft $180.00 5 Blade 18x18x1 1/4 R.H $550.00 Shaft 1 1/4 48" + nut $200.00 Strut $200.00 Shaftlog + packing $200.00 3 blade prop 11D 11P R.H. 3/4 shaft $95.00 Rudder blade complete set 1 1/8 diam. amstel78 Member. (The pictures show the shaft collar rubbed into the strut housing at the top and a gap between the collar and strut housing at the bottom.) Facebook. When I spin the prop manually I hear a little scraping sound not sure if that is normal is there a way to check if the prop shaft is bent? The prop shop guy who replaced my skeg last year noted that my propeller shaft was bent, conveniently after he had completed the work. As a veteran shaft bender, I've perfected the method of straightening. Thank you for your replies and for clarifying the runout spec. DISCUSSIONS. You're up around 1/64th of an inch (0.015) run-out at the prop end. So I have a 2000 Yamaha 100HP 4 stroke on my boat. MarineShaft specializes in repair of marine propeller equipment and rudder arrangements. If its a ski / wake board boat I bet the prop shaft is rubbing on the stuffing box tube due to bent strut or bent prop shaft or engine out of alignment . If it's as slight as you say, you should be able to hammer it back into shape. The dial indicator reads 0.4mm at the rear end. From then on, it … Forums for All Owners. Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox. Does anyone know how much it costs to repair this? Read more, #afsnittekst11420 {position:relative}
You might feel this through the wheel or tiller, although hydraulic steering can mask this vibration. A good prop shop can repair minor blade damage. Dailymotion, at your disposal 24/7 with repair solutions + 45 96 56 02 02 info@marineshaft.com. Can the housing be removed by unscrewing the two torx screws on the prop mount? AQUILAMASTER. Jul 9, 2019 #25 Shrub Lurker Well-Known Member. Finally, remove the rods centering the shaft in the shaft long, slide the boot and packing gland back so the boot is back to where it was, and cinch down both hose clamps. For more than 50 years we have been cold-straightening bent propeller shafts and rudder stocks with class-approval. Approximately $1500 to have the shaft replaced. MarineShaft specializes in repair of marine propeller equipment and rudder arrangements. Often a better straightness than that of a new shaft has been achieved and no matter where in the world the propeller or rudder damage occurs, a straightening is often the most profitable solution. Clamp the motor in a vice pr to the edge of the workbench with a C Clamp, and run it without a prop at a fair speed (not ctritical) Take marker pen, peferably something with a sharp tip, and slowly bring the marker close to the shaft till it just touches it, leaving a mark at the high point. While it's out, have the lower unit resealed. Reply. For more than 50 years we have been cold-straightening bent propeller shafts and rudder stocks with class-approval. The steering rod looks like rust. I have video of the engine running on a stand. Thread starter AQUILAMASTER; Start date Aug 6, 2020; Forums. Problem is, a bent shaft can be bent both in the area visable on the front of the motor, AND it can be bent behind the front bearing, jnside the motor. It is bening sold as a parts motor as the gearcase is damaged and the prop shaft is bent. https://1source.basspro.com/.../2373/quick-fix-bent-boat-prop I bent the prop shaft trying to put the cat on plane in too shallow of water. MESSAGES. The range of the orbit or gyration caused by the shaft bend is defined as the shaft runout, and is typically measured in terms of "TIR" (Total Indicator Reading). A pitted prop isn’t that big of a deal to worry about. Thanks X . Our cold straightening service is a fast and cost-effective repair method. If that is the case then you will need to grind away the damaged glass and remove the strut. From there you can assess how badly bent it is, but there is a good chance you can straighten it with a hydraulic press while it is off the boat. Engines and Propulsion. Bass Cat Boats. Some blades are pushing more water than others. Bent the propshaft on my 200 opti this morning. If you suspect a shaft is not true, have it checked and replace or retrue it. Typically, once the elastic limit has been reached, metal can be bent, or deformed, permanently at substantially lower levels. I didn't even break a prop, but still, paranoia can run rampant after that. Because the shaft has bent, the metal has exceeded the elastic strength of the metal. Login; Join; HOME. See attached. I looked closer and I can see that there is a noticeable bend in the prop shaft. I hit a submerged log with less than 10 hours on my engine back in 07 when I bought my first toon, damaged the aluminum prop and bent the skeg and prop shaft, dealer pulled the shaft and sent it to a local machine shop that has a jig made for straightening them, I had the prop fixed at a local prop shop and the skeg straightened back straight as new with some finess. It did sound to me like WernerF is trying to conserve some cash. BENT PROP SHAFT. If you say no to cookies, our website will still function, but it may result in diminished functionality. A bent shaft manifests in the spectrum at the shaft rotating frequency. I was testing the boat last night after I cleaned the carbs (running on muffs), and noticed the prop wobbling. However unlike the unbalance, a significant axial vibration will be measured, with a frequency spectrum featuring a second harmonic, accompanying the first harmonic of the rotating speed. Large images may take a few minutes to appear. Repair of rudder stocks & rudder arrangements, Repair of propeller shafts & propeller equipment, Repair of propeller blades and fixed propellers, Distributor of Wärtsiläs Seals & Bearings. This will help to ensure you have a long gearcase life. If it is bent, depending on how bad it is, they can be straightened, or just the prop shaft and seals replaced. Shaft … Bass Cat Boats. When you think it cannot be repaired, think again. The propshaft is a little bent, at least the thinner aft portion. I recommend having the propshaft removed and straightened by a machine shop. Bass Cat Owners is a forum for Bass Cat owners to learn, share, and discuss more about their boats. If your URL is correct, you'll see an image preview here. Anyway the long term solution is to replace it however I need it by this Wed. How hard is it remove and replace the prop shaft on a 250 HPDI. See attached. #2 = 115 psi #3 = 105 psi. Joined Oct 5, 2018 Messages 763 Reaction score 584. We can straighten (1” - 1 1/4” diameter shafts), outboard and stern drive prop shafts without removal from the gear case. Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings. My point being, it takes a lot to damage these marine transmissions and drives. Compression readings are (Top to bottom, cyl 1 to 3) #1 = 110psi. A missing or bent prop throws the weight of the prop out of balance. Joined Jul 26, 2000 Messages 10,830 Reaction score 3 Location Michigan. Even the most severe bendings of shafts can be straightened. Now is the perfect time to check the propeller shaft for fishing line. Approved shaft straightening service of steel shafts and rudder stocks. Granted, the Echelon is an inboard. Any variation in the distance between blade tips and a fixed point, or a visible wobble, can also mean a bent shaft. If you try to balance the rotor, a large correction weight is tipically necessary. Bent shaft after hitting a stump. It was hard enough to bend guide fins, bend the prop shaft, shear off the rudder and crack the hull. $95.00 Buy it all in one shot $650.00 or make me a reasenable offer more info call me 613-659-3143 Edwin Many features may not work properly without it. #form-link { display:block; position:absolute; left:0; top:0; width:100%; height:100%;}, MarineShaft A/S Pier 2 9850 Hirtshals Denmark + 45 96 56 02 02 info@marineshaft.com, Contact us About MarineShaft Latest newsletters Brochures/ Articles Buy steel from stock, Repair of rudder arrangements Repair of propeller equipments Manufacturing of shafts Mobile machining services Delivery terms. Sep 12, 2006 #1 We use cookies to enhance our website and improve your experience of it. Remember: Using others' images on the web without their permission may be bad manners, or worse, copyright infringement. Bent Prop Shaft. The prop will need to be spun pretty fast to see any wobble in the shaft. The motor ran smooth and strong last time it was in the water and still does, even on the stand. Inspect the propeller shaft Many boat owners remove expensive stainless steel propellers to prevent theft during winter storage. Even the most severe bendings can be straightened Do you want to receive our monthly newsletter with informative marine repair possibilities enabling you to choose the best repair solution? Bill McElroy Well-Known Member. A prop that is bent, pitted, or has missing pieces can still run. If you put the transmission in neutral and slowly rotate the prop shaft by turning the coupler around, you should see essentially little or no wiggle in the packing gland and the flexible boot behind it. Figure 1. Without that, the only thing I can think of at this point is that if the shaft isn't bent, the bell housing itself isn't true or isn't mounted well. It is the damage that can be done to the lower unit that you want to think about. Note: Your browser does not have JavaScript enabled. and Oly for the "real" Best way to do it. The thicker forward part (where the seals ride) reads only 0.05mm. Fortunately, years ago, Hacker still had a USA supplier. You can use a piece of coathanger wire and a c clamp, to check the actual prop shaft for straightness. Propeller shaft straightening: When the prop shaft is bent, even the slightest, this can often cause a vibration. Supported videos include: If you can, take it from the steering link on the engine, then pull it all the way out, clean it with a brake cleaner or carb cleaner, grease … Total indicator reading for an E-TEC propshaft is 0.005". Most marine dealers work with a prop shop for this service. In some cases, if the shaft is severely bent, it is unrepairable. This will cause your prop shaft to move from side to side and wear on the bearing in the prop strut and stress the shaft seal assembly. The vibrations mean the prop is no longer running in a balanced condition. The offseason is also a good time to send your prop out to repair nicked or bent blades. Hi all, Happy Thanksgiving. I got to my Sabre 38-II today to find what looks like a bent prop shaft aft of the cutlass bearing. Metacafe, We offer you complete repair solutions including final machining and re-fitting on-site. Vimeo, The seals ride ) reads only 0.05mm pieces can still run starter AQUILAMASTER ; Start date 6. 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